Innate Wisdom Podcast

What It's About:

Join Loren Sofia, Functional Fertility Coach and founder of Innate Fertility, and Dr. Carolyn Dean, the author of The Magnesium Miracle, as they discuss the importance of the miracle mineral, magnesium.

In this episode, you’ll learn about:

• How much nutrition training doctors (MDs) really get
• The truth about “bio-hacking” and what “bio-hackers” get wrong
• The key symptoms you probably have if you’re deficient in magnesium
• What you need to know about the types of magnesium — which forms are actually absorbable versus what is just marketing
• The top reasons you need magnesium for optimal wellness, fertility, pregnancy, postpartum, nursing and mental health if you’re a woman
• The essential reasons you need magnesium for optimal wellness, fertility and mental health if you’re a man
• If your diagnosis is really a magnesium deficiency in disguise
• Thinking about detox? You need to know this about magnesium first
• The relationship between magnesium, yeast and estrogen
• Which key nutrients you need to be getting for magnesium to work properly in your body
• How magnesium helps support the mitochondria in your cells, energy production (ATP-Mg) and muscle recovery
• Can you really take magnesium if you have “bad kidneys”?
• Simple things you can do to replenish your magnesium levels in your body
• How to test for inflammation at home (it’s super easy!)
• And more!

Transcript:

 

EP Carolyn Dean

00:00:00:22 - 00:00:29:18

Loren

Welcome to the Innate Wisdom Podcast. I'm your host, Loren Sofia, healer of my own fertility and health struggles. Mother. Functional fertility coach to thousands of women and owner of innate fertility. I believe your body is innately wise and so is your fertility. Sometimes we just need the tools to unlock it in abundance. I'm honored to guide you through each episode where we'll cover not just fertility, but how to rediscover the innate wisdom of your body.

 

00:00:29:20 - 00:00:43:03

Loren

Restore your connection with your physiology, bioenergetics and metabolism, and get back in touch with Mother Nature and ancestral traditions.

 

00:00:43:05 - 00:01:09:02

Loren

I cannot believe it. This week I have the honor of talking to the one and only doctor, Carolyn Dean. She is, in my eyes, the magnesium queen. If you're not familiar with her work, doctor Dean is a renowned expert in the field of magnesium and holistic health. She's even been on The View multiple times. She has had an extensive career.

 

00:01:09:03 - 00:01:43:08

Loren

She's both a medical doctor and an Octopath doctor, so she brings an incredible depth of knowledge from both the conventional and holistic sides of the spectrum to her work. She's the author of many books, including the very well known Magnesium Miracle and her newest book, Magnesium The Missing Link to Total Health. She's a huge advocate for the importance of magnesium in maintaining overall health and well-being, which is why I'm so excited to share our conversation with you today.

 

00:01:43:08 - 00:02:16:16

Loren

We're covering so many things, including the truth about biohacking and what biohackers get wrong. How to tell if you're magnesium deficient, which forms of magnesium are actually absorbable versus marketing, how magnesium supports fertility, pregnancy, postpartum nursing, and so much more for women. What you need to know about magnesium. If you have detox issues or yeast overgrowth aka Candida or estrogen dominance, how to replenish magnesium in your body, and so much more.

 

00:02:16:18 - 00:02:49:09

Loren

Now I know this episode is going to get you super excited about magnesium and I don't blame you. It's an amazing mineral, but the mineral analyst and expert in me needs to just play with you for a second before you go taking magnesium, and especially before you go taking large doses, it's definitely worth getting a hair tissue mineral analysis to see your metabolic type and what other minerals you may need before magnesium so that you don't experience a dreadful detox reaction.

 

00:02:49:11 - 00:03:14:20

Loren

Now you can't say I didn't warn you. Okay, so I hope you enjoyed the episode and let's get on with the show. Okay everyone, I am super honored and I mean that sincerely to be talking to Doctor Carolyn Dean, the author of The Magnesium Miracle, but also she's an author of many other books that you have to read.

 

00:03:14:22 - 00:03:21:13

Loren

Welcome, doctor Carolyn Dean. It's truly I'm so excited to have you on the podcast.

 

00:03:21:15 - 00:03:24:22

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Thank you. And please call me Carolyn.

 

00:03:24:24 - 00:03:42:08

Loren

Thank you. Thank you so much. Well, for the audience, if you know you're listening or you're not familiar with Doctor Carolyn Dean's work. Carolyn, would you mind giving everyone sort of the background of how you got into the work that you do today and what that exactly is?

 

00:03:42:10 - 00:04:10:20

Dr. Carolyn Dean

It's been a long journey and a happy one for the most part. In my teens, I was very interested in nutrition and lifestyle, and my team were going back to the 60s, 1960s and nobody would listen to me. So then, I was doing a science degree, signed on genetics. I tell people I was looking for the stupidity gene so we could cut that out.

 

00:04:10:22 - 00:04:32:19

Dr. Carolyn Dean

But in the midst of it all, I was in classes with with, as it turns out, young people who were applying to med school. And one day a couple of them said, hey, did you get your letter? Did you get accepted? And I said, well, I feel pretty accepted. And they said, no, no, no, we thought you were premed.

 

00:04:32:19 - 00:04:55:01

Dr. Carolyn Dean

You know, we just get our acceptance into medical school. And I said, you, you know, they were like 19 years old. I said, you little nerds are going to be doctors. That's crazy. And at the time, I was 24, I did my husband, my then boyfriend, now husband of whatever, 55 years we'd been traveling. And then I went back to school.

 

00:04:55:03 - 00:05:36:22

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So I marched over to the dean of medicine office. I found my my former guidance counselor was his assistant, Miss Elliott. And I said, why did you tell me I should be an executive secretary or nurse? I could have been a doctor by now. So, so long story short, I got into medicine the next semester, and I started at that point in time that doctors within ten years would be into natural medicine and die because there was so much information out about it.

 

00:05:36:24 - 00:06:03:15

Dr. Carolyn Dean

But we seriously took the wrong turn so that at this point, doctors don't know anything about nutrition or nutrients. They have no courses in that sort of direct action to keep people healthy. Their preventative medicine is just doing more tests, doing mammograms and blood tests and whatever. And and then putting people on drugs earlier because they feel that's the treatment.

 

00:06:03:15 - 00:06:32:13

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So it just gets so sidetracked and, and right after, I got my medical degree, and then years into my license, I started my naturopathy training. So I'm an MD and, and in the but in, in my office, in my family practice I mainly practice. It's a natural path which is first, do no harm. Look for the root cause.

 

00:06:32:15 - 00:07:13:08

Dr. Carolyn Dean

You treat people with respect. So all the things about natural path medicine were part of, you know, my heart and soul. And it's been very distressing to see how medicine has become just an assembly line of factory where they, they give doctors practice guidelines, each to these, they give a guideline, do this first and then that, and they don't even leave it up to the doctors anymore, because if everything ends with the prescription of a drug and there's so many drugs, there's so hard to even understand what these drugs do.

 

00:07:13:08 - 00:07:42:13

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And when you read about the drugs, they say, well, we don't know the mechanism, but this this clinical trial showed a 20% improvement in people who took this drug. So just give it. Don't ask questions. It's come to the point where people are depending on podcasts such as yours, to get some information that they can trust and then move forward trying to stay healthy and stay out of hospital.

 

00:07:42:15 - 00:08:07:11

Loren

Yeah, well, I think that's beautiful. And you're not unlike a lot of the guests that I've had on this podcast where they were going down the conventional medical route. And I myself, you know, was initially going to go back to school to become a dietitian. And as soon as I understood that that was captured as well, I was like, okay, I was told by a dietitian to not become a dietitian.

 

00:08:07:17 - 00:08:35:04

Loren

She's like, don't waste your time. You're not going to be able to help anyone. And I do think, you know, there definitely are dietitians that help people. And, you know, they're doing great work. But it's hard to unless, you know, you have your own practice. And still within that, there's so many guidelines you have to meet. And so I do think that that is what you said is really interesting, because I do think you make a good point that there's no, like, critical thinking really any more at least.

 

00:08:35:04 - 00:09:04:15

Loren

And you've you've seen the evolution. Even in the 60s, they were there was a sort of set agenda you had to, like, follow. You didn't really have to think critically. And there's the other added layer. Incentivization by pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies where, you know, they're incentivized if they prescribe certain things or, so it's it's not even just like the doctors are struggling to do their jobs because there are really great doctors out there, too.

 

00:09:04:16 - 00:09:14:02

Loren

But it's just the whole system is engineered to just be this way. And it's it's difficult if you want to get really good care.

 

00:09:14:04 - 00:09:47:18

Dr. Carolyn Dean

For believing back then or and when. When our clinicians in, in med school this are the mid 70s, they'd say to us, give a drug for short a time if you can, just use it until the patient's own whatever immune system or energy or whatever comes back. We never thought of drugs to be given lifelong like they are now blood pressure drugs, diabetes drugs, cholesterol drugs, they're all marketed to be lifelong drugs.

 

00:09:47:20 - 00:10:16:18

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So the drug companies have taken over. They've taken over the funding of research. When you see nutrition research, you really have to look at the bottom line and see who funded it, because if it's against supplements, it's often a pharmaceutical company that's that's manipulating the statistics. So it is very difficult. And and that's where we get back to when we're sort of educating our people.

 

00:10:16:20 - 00:10:44:02

Dr. Carolyn Dean

We, we ask them to take responsibility for their own health when they're working with a new diet or dietary supplement or exercise regime. Take note. What's it doing to your body? You can no longer give your health over to a practitioner, no matter if it's a medical doctor. Now has the nutritionist, the dietician. All these people have a job to do.

 

00:10:44:04 - 00:11:14:16

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And some of the, focus on, well, maybe a lot of the focus on these jobs is to make a salary, to make money. I know, doctors who got into the holistic, treatment, they would depend on the sale of supplements to run their clinic, because when you're doing kind of an educational, medical practice, a lot of your time is spent talking to people.

 

00:11:14:16 - 00:12:00:16

Dr. Carolyn Dean

You have to have staff, you know, customer service staff to talk to people and and it's a high, high overhead. So what is the person making in terms of the, the supplements? And how does that affect how they prescribe their own supplements. And I know doctors who, who I won't talk about the names of my products because the FDA won't let me, but I do have an online dietary supplement company with a handful of basic nutrients for the body, and we've talked to practitioners and they say, well, you know, you're only you only have eight supplements.

 

00:12:00:18 - 00:12:44:06

Dr. Carolyn Dean

You know, we depend on our 50 supplements in order to make our overhead. So they're not interested in in those basic. So there's that aspect as well. In the naturopathy world. And I was on the board of the, Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine for six years, and I saw them kind of devolve into more allopathic naturopathy. They would do research studies on, on a fraction of a herb instead of doing a combination of herbs such as, you know, people have done lifelong or, you know, ancestrally, we use groups of herbs and groups of foods.

 

00:12:44:06 - 00:13:00:01

Dr. Carolyn Dean

We did not isolate a food or a chemical or drug study that alone and say, well, this is the result. And that's failing us right now because nobody is looking at the whole picture.

 

00:13:00:03 - 00:13:21:08

Loren

I couldn't agree more. I'm a huge proponent of whole foods and whole food supplements. And just looking at the bigger picture, because I really think we can miss the forest for the trees. And as I was discussing earlier, before I even started recording, I think a lot of people are looking for that magic pill, and they're hoping that this one single nutrient is going to be what solves all their problems.

 

00:13:21:08 - 00:13:40:08

Loren

And so, okay, I'm going to get this supplement and oh, this person saying this is going to solve this, this, this isolated nutrients going to solve my problem. So I'm going to take this isolated nutrient and then that isolated nutrient. And you know, at the end of the day, you might even be creating more imbalances because all of these nutrients in nature act together.

 

00:13:40:10 - 00:14:00:10

Loren

And so if you are supplementing in an isolated way, you could actually be creating more imbalance and it might provide some short term relief. Maybe. But it's not solving the root of the problem typically. So you have to be really careful with what you choose to supplement.

 

00:14:00:12 - 00:14:27:18

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Yeah. You see that lawn with the biohackers? I've been interviewed by enough biohackers to know that they'll just go, you know, hog wild on one supplement and and say, oh, it made me feel so good for, you know, 2.6 seconds and then and then, the imbalance rears its ugly head. So, so there's the biohackers. I tell them, look, I've solved the whole biohacking problem.

 

00:14:27:24 - 00:15:05:04

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I've been biohacking for 50 years. And here's here's the answer. Your basic nutrients, well absorbed and all the rest of it. But there's the biohackers. And then there's the marketing in the supplement industry and what's happened there. And I saw it because I used to go to all the Expo health Expo conferences and, and I saw it being taken over by medicine, you know, people who came out of the hospitals and the pharmaceutical companies and they would come with their marketing, you know, hoopla and push this.

 

00:15:05:06 - 00:15:27:18

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Oh, you have to have this herb. It does, you know, these 20 things. And if you don't have it, you're going to die. And the marketing just got crazy. So you go to some of these big sites and see, you know, hundred or more different supplements or different, you know, bundle of what you needed for this, that and the other.

 

00:15:27:20 - 00:15:56:20

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And it, I'm sure just drives the public wild and and well, I've been through it myself as I was experimenting over the years, I would have 20 or 30 different supplements. And I've had, I've had consultations with people over the years where they've been on a hundred different pills a day, and, and the binders and fillers alone are going to cause symptoms, and you're not really going to get that far.

 

00:15:56:20 - 00:16:17:11

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So, you know, you go to a nutritionist and they'll either muscle test or just look at their list of, oh, you've got this symptom. Oh, take these four things and then they make their 50% markup. And and the patient goes home and it's just swallowing all this stuff. So you know we got to get back to common sense.

 

00:16:17:13 - 00:16:46:17

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And then the commercialism of the supplement industry has gotten us into a lot of problems. And then the third thing is the the FDA has come down harder and harder on dietary supplements because they interfere with drug prescribing. Either people reject drugs and want to go to dietary supplements or or they're getting better on dietary supplements and they go off their drugs.

 

00:16:46:23 - 00:17:03:18

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And the FDA, it makes at least 50% of its its income from drug companies paying the FDA to oversee their scientific research on their drug. So there's just that terrible.

 

00:17:03:20 - 00:17:04:19

Loren

Conflict of interest.

 

00:17:04:19 - 00:17:31:11

Dr. Carolyn Dean

You know, bribery scheme, conflict of interest. It's just terrible. People need to know are people, you know, your listeners. I'm sure they realize this. And that's why, again, we're looking to make being healthy our best revenge against this whole system. If you're healthy, you don't need drugs to stay at a hospital, then you don't support that system.

 

00:17:31:13 - 00:17:53:03

Loren

I think that is the key. And you know, ironically the less supplements you take to is also revenge. It's just hard and difficult to though when you know you are dealing with a health issue, where do you go. So I guess, you know, we're definitely going to dive into magnesium because I want to talk to you about magnesium.

 

00:17:53:03 - 00:18:06:08

Loren

You are the magnesium queen. But, for anyone listening, they might feel, you know, a little bit. Maybe this is a little bit depressing. What do you recommend? How to navigate this sort of situation?

 

00:18:06:10 - 00:18:38:16

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Yeah. Oh, there's definitely ways out of that. I guess I just I just dropped into my Death by Modern Medicine book there where I talk about all that stuff. But most of my books are solutions. And you know, to sort of continue my story. What happened with me is when, you know, I was in practice up in Toronto, family practice for for 13 years, had a huge practice people would get married to to join my practice.

 

00:18:38:18 - 00:19:06:14

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I'll marry you if you get me an appointment with doctor Dean. So I was going to take a sabbatical, but I was invited to go to New York to do, an Aids and chronic fatigue, clinical trial using an alternative modality. So while I mean massive stress in New York. But it was the good days, you know, it was safe in New York.

 

00:19:06:16 - 00:19:37:02

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And, I started to do some local TV. I was on The View a lot until they started doing doing drug to consumer advertising on TV. And then they didn't want me on because I'd say, well, you don't have to take this drug. You can take this vitamin or herb. So anyway, random House asked me to write the Magnesium Miracle, and it wasn't more than a minute before I realized that I was the poster child for magnesium deficiency headaches.

 

00:19:37:02 - 00:20:05:12

Dr. Carolyn Dean

You know, brain fog, tight shoulders twitching, some mild IBS, horrible leg cramps and heart palpitations. I was a, I was, on paper, a mess, but I think my adrenal glands kept me going because I was very high functioning. But when I, when I discovered I'm, I had all these symptoms like, oh my gosh, this is this is the answer.

 

00:20:05:14 - 00:20:35:23

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So when I started to take a magnesium no, I got an immediate laxative effect. So I wrote the book. I was trying to take magnesium. I was spending hours at a time in Epsom salt bags to try to absorb magnesium. And, and after the book was published in I guess was 2003, I spent ten years trying to find a company that would make a non laxative magnesium.

 

00:20:36:00 - 00:20:58:16

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Nobody was interested because magnesium is so popular. It just sells. It sells like hotcakes. So I finally found a chemist to make a non laxative magnesium. And then I was in in a corner. So I had to start my own company to market it. And what it is, it's pico meter sized which is many, many, many tiny.

 

00:20:58:16 - 00:21:28:17

Dr. Carolyn Dean

It's the size of the mineral ion channels in the cells. So these pico meter sized ions of a mineral will go right into the cell. So they're they're fully absorbed. And the, the stabilized part of the mineral is sort of the, the proprietary aspect of it. It's an 18 step process. But we know they're stabilized. So I can stay stabilized for years.

 

00:21:28:17 - 00:22:03:23

Dr. Carolyn Dean

We pass a laser through the the liquid and it doesn't bounce off anything material. Whereas all the magnesium compounds, they're a compound which is very big. And it's not going to go into cells and all the compounds, they have to disassociate in order for that magnesium iron to be able to get into a cell. However, magnesium it, you know, more than most other minerals, is highly reactive and it binds right back up.

 

00:22:04:00 - 00:22:29:23

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So it may be a fraction of a millisecond when that iron is available. And that's why the absorption is so poor for most magnesium and why you get the laxative effect with most magnesium because they're not absorbed in the body, gets rid of them. So when someone is talking about, well, I'm taking those, there's product that has six different magnesium.

 

00:22:29:23 - 00:23:04:17

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So it's going to be great. Well when you look at a 500 milligram capsule of any of these magnesium compounds, you turn the label around and you see the amount of elemental magnesium is maybe 50 to 75mg. Nothing. So in my world, if I'm trying to help someone who's magnesium deficient like I was, I want magnesium. I don't want this other, you know, 450mg of something else.

 

00:23:04:19 - 00:23:35:04

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So there's a lot of marketing, disinformation on these compounds. The magnesium L39 is the worst. On the front of it. It'll say 2000mg. And the label above will say magnesium L three and eight. But then the 2000mg you say, well, I'm buying magnesium, I'm getting 2000mg of the L three. Now you turn it over. One capsule has like seven 75mg.

 

00:23:35:06 - 00:24:10:08

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So in my world, when I worked on my computer magnesium and finally was able to to get it to the point of testing it, I was able to take 1200 milligrams of magnesium, whereas before 15mg would send me to the toilet. So what I see in people I have documented about 65 different health conditions that are are magnesium deficiency and misdiagnosed as diseases.

 

00:24:10:10 - 00:24:39:18

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And that's horrifying because what do we treat diseases with drugs. So then we get lists of drugs that deplete magnesium. A lot of the common drugs have fluoride bound to it to help it drive through or break through fat cell membranes to get inside the cell. So this fluoride in this drug, what happens in the gut. We all know about the microbiome how busy the bacteria are.

 

00:24:39:22 - 00:25:18:01

Dr. Carolyn Dean

They break down drugs so they'll release the fluoride. And then that fluoride it it does react with magnesium that split second when that magnesium compound is available boom. It'll bind to the fluoride and it makes a brittle compound a magnesium fluoride. It's called cell eight. And it binds to tendons, ligaments and joints. What's the the FDA black box warning on ciprofloxacin, which is a fluoride antibiotic tendon rupture.

 

00:25:18:03 - 00:25:52:10

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So boom boom boom you know you need their magnesium. How much magnesium do you need? 80% of known metabolic functions require magnesium 80%. So that's why I'm so big on magnesium. And yet I didn't find that statistic out until 2018. And actually that was after the second, third edition of Magnesium Miracle. And that's why I just recently released Magnesium The Missing Link to Total Health, because I had to update it.

 

00:25:52:12 - 00:26:16:05

Dr. Carolyn Dean

When you consider that 80% of what's going on in your body requires magnesium, that's where you begin with, you know, we'd like people to start, you know, with 4 or 5 of our formulas because they're a girl, synergistically balanced. But if you just start with magnesium, your immune system starts to perk up. You start sleeping better, you're not tense.

 

00:26:16:05 - 00:26:40:09

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Your shoulders drop, you know your muscles fat and go, your heart palpitations go. Atrial fibrillation could be a magnesium deficiency. So when when you're saturated with magnesium, things improve. Maybe you're taking it for your sleep. And all of a sudden you think, oh my gosh, you know, I don't need my coffee in the morning anymore. I just need my magnesium drink.

 

00:26:40:11 - 00:27:13:04

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And what we've also found, which is very important for women, is after 2 or 3 months of just taking our pico or magnesium, people start detoxifying and women start detoxifying yeast. They'll they'll be itchy ears, itchy eyes, maybe some their genitals, skin rashes, coated tongue, a bit of IBS. And people will say, you know, our customers. I was doing so well and now the magnesium isn't working.

 

00:27:13:10 - 00:27:40:11

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And we say, no, congratulations, your immune system is finally woken up and it's going to get rid of some this yeast overload. So it's been fascinating on this journey of being able to use something that's so remarkably absorbed and does all the good things and, and I'm kind of low key about it in a way, while I have to be low key.

 

00:27:40:13 - 00:28:11:21

Dr. Carolyn Dean

The FDA came after me a couple of years ago because when we would say something about, well, take our magnesium and see if it helps your atrial fibrillation. And we we weren't even that blatant, actually, Lorena was testimonials on our websites where people said, oh, I took your magnesium and I got rid of my a atrial fibrillation or my heart palpitations or my leg cramps or or my insomnia.

 

00:28:11:23 - 00:28:45:16

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And they did. They would not even allow First Amendment, you know, speak your truth in, in testimonials. So I have to say, you know, very low key. I cannot announce the importance of this, this type of magnesium. And that's fine. You know, whosoever will, you know, people find out a lot of word of mouth, because all we're able to do in our marketing is talk about lifestyle.

 

00:28:45:16 - 00:29:01:13

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And, you know, I don't know, it's be happy. Do your exercise, drink, drink your water with some sea salt in it. It's just and then be able to do podcasts like yours, get, get the word out.

 

00:29:01:15 - 00:29:22:03

Loren

Yeah. Well, if the FDA is trying to censor your testimonials, then you definitely know that you're on to something good. And that actually works. I'm sorry that that's happening to you, but I would love to break down a couple of things that you mentioned just now, because I think a lot of our listeners are definitely keen on magnesium types.

 

00:29:22:05 - 00:29:42:17

Loren

And so, you know, you mentioned compounds. So when you were referring to compounds, do you mean things like magnesium citrate, magnesium or était magnesium? I think you mentioned three and eight. There's glycine eight, there's malate. There's so many types. That's what you were referring to regarding compounds. Correct?

 

00:29:42:19 - 00:30:15:07

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Correct. And I guess since I'm I'm a magnesium maven, I just want the magnesium for my people. The taurine may help. And yes, I actually use up an amino amino acid of touring an amino acid L methylene in with my B vitamins were food based methylated B vitamins because taurine is very important. But you don't need the taurine when you're trying to get the straight magnesium.

 

00:30:15:09 - 00:30:42:08

Dr. Carolyn Dean

It's just misinformation. You know, the, the marketing is of, these compounds is done by marketing people. They're not doctors, they're not clinicians. And I guess that's where in my world I'm so tuned in to, to my patients and customers because I went through it. I mean, you you get people who just think, oh, any magnesium is fine.

 

00:30:42:13 - 00:31:14:11

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I mean, look at look at our friend Morley Morley Robbins. He defines his trajectory into natural medicine from reading my book, The Magnesium Miracle. He he turned up at the first conference where he wanted to meet me with a silly Superman shirt on that said, magnesium man. I mean, he just went went crazy. And then how long did it take before he said, well, it's it's not really just magnesium, it's too much iron.

 

00:31:14:11 - 00:31:42:16

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And now it's oh, it's all about copper. It's like, no, listen to your mentor Morley. Use the right. Using the right type of magnesium will have gotten rid of all that, you know, the distraction that you had by not choosing the right magnesium meant that your body, the body was still going through needing magnesium for 80% of known metabolic functions.

 

00:31:42:18 - 00:32:24:12

Dr. Carolyn Dean

If it didn't get enough, then those symptoms that were left over are being misidentified as other problems. So yeah, I'll just keep maintaining that. You just get your basics in in magnesium. And the other thing and the way I told you about you take magnesium pico or magnesium for a couple months. Your immune system boosts up. We don't start by telling people to stop everything in their world, because what the people who, even the customers who come to us, I consider they have something akin to total body meltdown.

 

00:32:24:14 - 00:32:49:16

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So they're already just so stressed out. If you start saying, don't do this, don't do that, don't. It's they just want to sleep and, you know, relax a bit. So that's what a good magnesium saturation will help them with. And then they can have the energy to to get rid of other things when, if and when you start detoxing comes up.

 

00:32:49:16 - 00:33:24:07

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Then we work on, a silver product and, and a natural antifungal product and probiotic. Okay, good. We've got that going, especially with women. We're looking at thyroid and adrenals, women who they have a profession, and then they start having a family and, they just get so rundown, burnt out and to the point of total body meltdown where young women now are getting this perimenopause type of diagnosis.

 

00:33:24:12 - 00:33:53:18

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I don't like that diagnosis. It's not menopause, it's toxicity. What do we do for women who have had children? You really look hard at the thyroid. Most doctors realize the thyroid will get impacted by pregnancy and and nursing, and all they do is blood tests and they watch and wait until the thyroid is so pumped out that they give thyroid hormone replacement.

 

00:33:53:20 - 00:34:24:16

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And what I found out after I worked on the magnesium, I wanted to do multiple mineral. So I chose 12 minerals. Nine of them are minerals that are required for thyroid hormone production, nine minerals and myself. After about six weeks of doing a test runs, we send out our multiple mineral. After six weeks, my hand started getting warm for the first time in years.

 

00:34:24:17 - 00:34:52:12

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Even though I've been on Armor Thyroid 60mg, so I was able to stop the arm or thyroid. You know, I'm still doing great. So it's not just the iodine that the thyroid needs, and it's not just selenium. And I mean, you need the boron, a copper magnesium of course molybdenum manganese. So that's nothing. You'll never hear that from any allopathic doctor.

 

00:34:52:12 - 00:35:23:01

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And even the naturopathy doctors don't go there. And when, when it's, something like Hashimoto's and people say, oh, you shouldn't even use, I dynan Hashimoto's. Well, Hashimoto's can be a toxicity reaction. And the the toxins that I focus on are from yeast, from yeast overgrowth. Some of the toxins from yeast cross react with thyroid hormone tissue and receptors.

 

00:35:23:03 - 00:35:49:11

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And when we can work, work on balancing these because you'll never kill it all. It's part of our large intestine. But what happens with the natural yeast is you feed it with a lot of sugar, you take antibiotics and maybe cortisone, and you have stress. One or more of those things, you will overgrow your yeast in your large intestine.

 

00:35:49:13 - 00:36:18:06

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And it it changes from kind of a budding stage to a thread like stage that crawls up into the small intestine, pokes holes in the small intestine, and then undigested food molecules and yeast toxins will be absorbed into the bloodstream. That to me is is the main reason for leaky gut. But what have we done in in allopathic medicine and allopathic naturopathy?

 

00:36:18:08 - 00:36:50:22

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Somehow it's become Sibo small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. And they don't even talk about yeast. In fact for Sibo they'll be prescribing antibiotics which make it makes the yeast worse. So I have a whole thing on yeast, education that I'm working on. I'm work actually. I'm an adjunct professor with an online naturopathic college called Know Your Wellness. It's an accredited college.

 

00:36:50:22 - 00:37:22:18

Dr. Carolyn Dean

They have my modules on magnesium now, and I'm working on yeast. And and actually, that's what I tell young people these days because I I'll get questions, emails saying, should I go into medicine like you were say, Lord, or should I go into naturopathy? And I say, do an online naturopathic course and then open a practice and use my my dietary supplements and you'll you'll be the best doctor around.

 

00:37:22:20 - 00:37:50:02

Loren

Oh man. There's so much to unpack with what you shared. But one of the things I mean, just a couple of questions and comments. I definitely, for anyone listening that's concerned that maybe their medication contains fluoride with what you said too about it rupturing tendons. I have seen that actually. So I used to actually be a lot more in the sports arena.

 

00:37:50:04 - 00:38:21:10

Loren

And so there was a girl at our gym who took the same exact antibiotic that you mentioned, and her tendon ruptured, and she was shocked and really, really mad once she actually read the potential side effects of the antibiotic after the tendon rupture. So just FYI, this definitely happens. Read your side effects, read the inserts of your, medications because your doctor will probably just glance glaze over them.

 

00:38:21:12 - 00:38:51:09

Loren

And if you're worried that your medication contains fluoride, usually it'll have flow, flow in the name. So that's one really easy way to identify if your medication contains fluoride. I definitely have seen amazing things with magnesium supplementation. One of my clients, several, but one in particular that comes to mind, she her family has a history of AFib and she was already starting to experience major palpitations.

 

00:38:51:11 - 00:39:15:03

Loren

She had detoxification issues, she had IBS. She definitely had histamine issues, which were likely a result of yeast overgrowth. And, we were able to get rid of that with just a little bit of magnesium. Not any crazy testing either. Not any crazy other supplements, just a little bit of lifestyle changes and magnesium and the perimenopause thing too.

 

00:39:15:03 - 00:39:37:15

Loren

I totally agree. Which is why, you know, in my practice to I've helped so many women that are starting to experience super irregular cycles. Maybe it's almost gone. And then we start working together and their cycles come back and they regulate and they're like, well, I don't know what was happening, but apparently my fertility has returned.

 

00:39:37:17 - 00:40:00:13

Loren

Which is really, really cool to see. And I believe that magnesium has a huge role, too, because as you said, it's involved in 80% of metabolic functions and your fertility is not a part or separate from your entire body health. So that's definitely something I wanted to mention.

 

00:40:00:15 - 00:40:27:12

Loren

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00:40:27:14 - 00:40:55:20

Loren

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00:40:55:22 - 00:41:08:15

Loren

You can learn more at any Fertility Dawgs get pregnant, and if you're loving the show, don't forget to leave a review. Now back to the episode.

 

00:41:08:17 - 00:41:44:01

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Yeah, let me just finish up about the drugs. If you're on any medication, just, put it in Wikipedia and a drug formula will show up. And if there's an F, as in fluoride, if there's an F in the formula, it's a fluoride drug. It's really easy to do. Find that in terms of, hormones and magnesium. I've recently read a paper where it talked about women who are on the birth control pill with that has estrogen, and women who are pregnancy.

 

00:41:44:03 - 00:42:17:15

Dr. Carolyn Dean

They their magnesium is diminished by 15 to 30%. Now that's a big range. But even to be able to say that the more estrogenic you are, then the less magnesium you have. You know, PCOS, that's, you know, someone has an abundance of estrogen, you're estrogen dominant. All you look at, all the symptoms of estrogen dominant. And if you take your magnesium, then that should help balance out that hormone.

 

00:42:17:15 - 00:42:42:17

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And that's pretty huge. That is very important. Pregnancy women need to be taking their magnesium. What happens, at the end of pregnancy when you're about to deliver. And if you don't have enough magnesium, you have fluid retention, your blood pressure is elevated, and you could have seizures, pre-eclampsia and eclampsia. What do they do in the hospital?

 

00:42:42:17 - 00:43:06:18

Dr. Carolyn Dean

They put it up an intravenous magnesium drip. And if your blood pressure can, you know, comes back after the drip, they'll put you on a blood pressure drug. They won't say, oh, you should take magnesium. It helps so much. When we gave you the drip it, it just boggles the mind. So magnesium has been used for it for hundreds of years.

 

00:43:06:18 - 00:43:42:04

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I think Epsom salts have been around and the midwives would tell women to take Epsom salts, baths or foot baths. So magnesium has been tested, time tested to be beneficial. And the reason why it's not being used is because doctors don't learn about this in medical school and doctors will say, well, if I didn't learn it med school, it can't be important, and then you're out of luck because you're you're twitchy and you'll actually I'll give you a big example.

 

00:43:42:06 - 00:44:16:15

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Jason Fong, he's a nephrologist. He's written a lot of good books lately that the obesity fix and diabetes fix, whatever. And, what he says in his dialysis clinic is a lot of people are twitching and palpitating because dialysis takes out their magnesium. And he will put the magnesium back with an intravenous to help stop these magnesium deficiency side effects and isolate.

 

00:44:16:20 - 00:44:42:12

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Because I was questioning him, I said, you know, kidney doctors tell people, their patients not to take magnesium because it might overload the kidneys or something. And he said, yeah, I know, but I won't put up and, magnesium drip and it really helps. So I said, well, when are you going to write that paper? And he says, probably never because he's, he's stuck in, in the system.

 

00:44:42:14 - 00:44:45:08

Loren

Yeah, I'll go after him.

 

00:44:45:10 - 00:44:47:23

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Depends on us to spread the truth.

 

00:44:48:00 - 00:45:15:03

Loren

Yeah. A couple more things. So what you said about, you know, if if doctors aren't learning this in medical school, they must think, oh, it's not important. But doctors barely get any nutritional training, if any at all. And, it's maybe two hours, maybe not even any. Maybe it's slightly more. But, you know, when it comes to nutritional training, they're trained to.

 

00:45:15:03 - 00:45:40:00

Loren

And again, it's training, not even education or a knowing. It's it's just training. Do this this this and this a process. They're learning not critical thinking. So and I don't mean to just completely throw them under the bus. But you know that is what they're taught the Merck manual. So you know why learn nutrition if you can prescribe a supplement.

 

00:45:40:00 - 00:46:05:23

Loren

Just putting that out there. What you said about estrogen dominance. So what I found maybe a triad here is magnesium deficiency, estrogen dominance and yeast overgrowth. I find that yeast overgrowth is really, really common with women with estrogen dominance as well. Yeast seem to just really proliferate in an estrogen dominant environment, which of course can mean magnesium deficient environment as well.

 

00:46:06:00 - 00:46:31:02

Loren

And one more thing about pregnancy. My mother had preeclampsia with me and my youngest brother. So it's something that I've studied and helped a lot of women with. My youngest brother was born two months early because, you know, they were so bad. It was so bad that either my the doctor was like, we have to give you an emergency C-section right now, or one of you is not going to make it, which is really scary.

 

00:46:31:02 - 00:47:01:00

Loren

And I asked her about this, you know, I was like, well, what what did they give you? You know, and just it's medications. I said nothing about magnesium, which it's so important for blood pressure regulation, which is one of the biggest, well, it's one of the pillars of preeclampsia is high, high blood pressure. And magnesium is I think it might be the most prevalent mineral in amniotic fluid, which just goes to show how important it is for a baby as well.

 

00:47:01:02 - 00:47:28:12

Loren

So, you know, magnesium is really, really important. And it's something that I, personally supplemented during my pregnancy with my son. But the question that I wanted to get to is, okay, we were talking about this earlier, isolated supplementation of nutrients. Now, somebody listening might be saying they just talked about how important it is to not isolate nutrients and supplement them.

 

00:47:28:14 - 00:47:40:17

Loren

Now, how can we? I would like to discuss this with you, because I think it's important to just acknowledge that and, and then also discuss this amongst our whole conversation.

 

00:47:40:19 - 00:48:06:19

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I know I joke about that myself, but, I guess it's setting the stage so that you start with that as your groundwork. If it's if it's effective in 80% of known metabolic functions, we have to know that. So we have to be able to use it. And for me like clinically and with my customers, it made it easier or easier for people to to just be able to.

 

00:48:06:21 - 00:48:33:09

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Okay, I'll just start with this one thing and, and I'll feel better and then I'll know what else is left over. But I very, you know, in our marketing with our customers, we'll, we'll say them. There's the multiple mineral to support your thyroid and your adrenals. And then there's the B vitamins with that are whole, whole food based or methylated.

 

00:48:33:11 - 00:49:08:11

Dr. Carolyn Dean

We've got this whole half our, abnormality gene, variation. It's not a genetic defect. It's a variation. And it depends on certain metabolic functions in the body working properly. Magnesium has something to do with it for Pete's sex. But I jump that and work with food based methylated BS, because if you look at studies with synthetic base, they really don't work that well.

 

00:49:08:13 - 00:49:41:06

Dr. Carolyn Dean

What what happened with the synthetic supplement is, there's a rotational spin on molecules, there's right handed and left handed, and one is a natural rotation, and one is the synthetic rotation. So if your receptor site needs to have this confirmation and you give it this confirmation, it's not going to go in and with the synthetics that we I saw this through my, through my practice.

 

00:49:41:09 - 00:50:16:00

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I began my practice in 1979. And it was just the beginning of, getting naturopathy colleges, getting, conventions and, alternative medicine doctors talking them and the supplement industry, the supplement industry back then was using food based supplements. They were it was all food based. And then the the drug companies, I guess, got got involved and say, well, we can make this synthetically and much cheaper.

 

00:50:16:02 - 00:50:47:24

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And that's where I started to say, oh, the, the synthetic doesn't really work that well orally for really sick people. Let's give it intramuscularly or let's give it intravenous and let's give it high or higher doses. And instead of where the body might just need a milligram or two of a B vitamin, what are people swallowing 50 milligram doses or 100 milligram doses instead of two and three milligrams.

 

00:50:47:24 - 00:51:15:01

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So they're really forcing this synthetics. Then there's vitamin C. We have to use food based vitamin C, but there's also ascorbic acid. And I used to just be pro food based. And and then I started interviewing the doctors who are using intravenous ascorbic acid because they can't you can't shoot a food into the veins and they have miraculous healings with the score, big acid.

 

00:51:15:03 - 00:51:40:14

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And then they'll show you studies where. Yes, in in animal studies we see how vitamin C is made and they are making ascorbic acid. So, I'm, I'm working with both. And then you look at the omega three is how important they are and how there's too much more. Omega six is in our diet compared to omega threes.

 

00:51:40:20 - 00:52:18:23

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So people have this omega six from vegetable seed oils that is pro-inflammatory. You need a certain amount of omega sixes. But we've got way too much because it's cheap and it's in everything I went through period. When I get kind of addicted to an organic snack, and I'm always looking to see if I'm inflamed and the inflammatory markers, if you you put your fingers down like this, and if they, they're nice and tight and they don't hurt, that means you have not get fluid retention or swelling or inflammation.

 

00:52:19:00 - 00:52:57:22

Dr. Carolyn Dean

If if you know they don't press down properly, you're inflamed. So my fingers started being like little sausages. And I finally read the label on my snack and it was sunflower oil. So I was ingesting this omega six fatty acid and throwing myself into an inflammatory state. So I work with omega three, but I don't like to work with a fish oil, because what's happened with fish oil these days, they have to be heavily processed to get rid of the toxins and the heavy metals.

 

00:52:57:24 - 00:53:28:14

Dr. Carolyn Dean

They really do. Apparently there's some plant in Sweden or whatever where all the fish oils go for this massive processing, and what's left behind from that process, I think, could be chemicals and ingredients that we really shouldn't have. And also when you look at something like krill oil as an omega three, krill is the food of whales. I live in Maui.

 

00:53:28:16 - 00:54:03:23

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I see whales out my window. And if they are, if, the krill is going to be farmed to make supplements for humans, the whales aren't going to have any food left because we are humans are well known for over fishing, overharvesting. So those are the the nutrients I look at in and three K to the k two part helps direct calcium into bones and teeth, and D3 is the natural form, whereas d d2 is the synthetic.

 

00:54:04:00 - 00:54:06:17

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So those are the basics that I work with.

 

00:54:06:19 - 00:54:36:07

Loren

Yeah. Magnesium is so important for that calcium regulation to itself. So when one comment on the fish oil I've heard, I don't know if you're familiar with Doctor Katherine Shanahan's work. I think she's in Hawaii too, by the way. Maybe not where you are, but I'm not sure where exactly. But she's referred to put, fish oil is like trying to put, lightning in a bottle because it's just the it's so delicate.

 

00:54:36:09 - 00:55:09:11

Loren

The fats are just so, delicate and vulnerable to oxidative stress, like heat and air. And then, you know, the whole processing and sourcing of it all, too, is really problematic. There's also a lot of heavy metals and dioxins, you know, depending on how they're raised. It's it's a, it's a mess. So, you know, I, I'm glad you're giving the whales some food because I know that we've done some pretty big damage to our, to our oceans as well, which you probably see way more of than out here in Colorado where I am.

 

00:55:09:15 - 00:55:11:03

Loren

But yeah.

 

00:55:11:05 - 00:55:44:05

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Every body of water that's been tested for heavy metals and toxins and pharmaceutical drugs has found a quantity of one or more of those things. Yeah. You find birth control pill residue in water up in some mountain stream. So every body of water in the world that's been tested has found toxicity. So, I mean, I've gotten to the point where I you can't tell people they can avoid any of this anymore.

 

00:55:44:07 - 00:56:25:06

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I remember years ago, in 2005, I wrote Death by Modern Medicine, and I talked about the 50,000 chemicals that are in our environment, and they weren't tested. Well, I, I just did a search the other day and they said there's like hundreds of thousands of chemicals that we've created that, that pollute our environment. And it used to be I remember in the 80s, in my practice, I'd have a few people who were all over the in total body melt down, and that got into chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia, and they were trying to avoid the world.

 

00:56:25:08 - 00:56:56:16

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And and that's where I got into the I don't tell people to avoid avoid it because it becomes so isolating. We we have customers who've tried to live in the wilderness to get away from all but the even the Wi-Fi. I mean, with, emfs electromagnetic frequencies, they affect the calcium channel ions, the oh, wavelength, the electromagnetic wave.

 

00:56:56:16 - 00:57:27:10

Dr. Carolyn Dean

But when open up calcium channels so that too much calcium gets into a cell and causes hyper excitability until the cell dies, well, what keeps the calcium channels closed is magnesium. So right there with with Wi-Fi and all the rest of it. And instead of trying to isolate yourself, although you should turn off your cell phone at night and try to live in a room that doesn't have a TV, you know, all that sort of radiation.

 

00:57:27:12 - 00:57:59:17

Dr. Carolyn Dean

But if you want to protect yourself against the all the waves, I mean, you can only imagine everyone you know that you know, has an iPhone and they're all picking up signals and they're all going through our heads. So we protect ourselves not by hiding in a cave, but by taking, taking magnesium. And also vitamin C. The Japanese are doing studies on vitamin C and how that protects against Wi-Fi radiation.

 

00:57:59:19 - 00:58:26:16

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Then we've got nuclear radiation. What protects you against that actually is tumeric. I'm working on an organic turmeric for for my people because with it I believe in nuclear power. I think it's the cleanest there is. But, you know, there there's going to be the, the residue and and some fallout that, that occurs. So we, we have to protect ourselves.

 

00:58:26:16 - 00:59:01:17

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So, there's many layers of things that we can do, and, but we just have to stay positive. Seriously, when I discovered my magnesium deficiency in, in New York. So that was in the mid 90s, the early 90s. So that's going back 35 years ago. And at that time I was in my late 40s, and now 75, and I feel better than I did back in my late 40s.

 

00:59:01:17 - 00:59:23:08

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I feel like I'm in my 30s, but I missed my I kind of missed my 30s and 40s by being so magnesium deficient. I just had to keep myself revved up to, get everything done in my world. And I thought it was normal. And that's what so many people go through. I mean, look what you went through.

 

00:59:23:10 - 00:59:54:20

Dr. Carolyn Dean

You know, you've on your podcast, you talk about it sort of being, stuck in the veganism vegetarian world and, and feeling symptomatic. And then, you took a birth control pill and that affected your hormones and, and we're all doing these things to ourselves, you know, being on the wrong diet, taking medication. I took the birth control pill for ten years and and really grew my yeast.

 

00:59:54:22 - 01:00:25:16

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I had mercury fillings. I had to get rid of them. And and overcoming all these things, you know, you get, higher and higher levels of wellness. But in my case, and I think in the case of many people, until you get your magnesium saturation and then you work on your other, your other, nutrient, I don't recommend iron because we, we do have a system in our body where we keep we hold on to our iron.

 

01:00:25:16 - 01:00:57:17

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And some people have iron overload. But if we use bioavailable copper, which I have, in my, multiple mineral, I have a bioavailable peak of copper. And your copper helps create your cereal, a plasm protein that holds onto your iron and keeps it from being a problem. So everything can be taken care of with with the the nutrients that we know we should have.

 

01:00:57:22 - 01:01:28:22

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I think the only thing I haven't talked about, Lauren, is, putting sea salt in your drinking water. Sea salt has 72 or more trace. Trace minerals and minerals are what helps make our metabolism work inside our cells. The minerals inside the cells pull in water. If you don't have enough minerals, then you're getting fluid retention. You know, people with ankle swelling, that's a lack of minerals.

 

01:01:28:22 - 01:01:57:18

Dr. Carolyn Dean

It's not too much water. And we hear people who have high blood pressure and maybe ankle edema. They don't drink any more water, you know, dehydrate yourself to get rid of your symptoms. It's crazy. So you need your minerals. So what I recommend is you take your your body weight in pound, cut that number in half and drink that many ounces of water every day and in each liter.

 

01:01:57:18 - 01:02:23:11

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So water put a quarter teaspoon of a good sea salt. A good sea salt is one that has some color to it. Pink or gray or whatever. If it's white sea salt, it's been processed and the minerals have been removed, and you drink that water through the day and maybe drink most of it in the early hours, you know, in the morning and early afternoon.

 

01:02:23:11 - 01:02:33:12

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So you won't be up at night. But it's amazing how people's fluid balances out when they drink enough water with minerals.

 

01:02:33:14 - 01:03:02:10

Loren

I love that. Thank you for all those practical tips. I think you know, that's something that you could start doing today and I think Mallie has a saying, don't drink hungry water. I think that's exactly what Carolyn is saying is, you know, remain our eyes, our water, because even if it is from the tap, it's been processed and it's also got probably some chlorine in it and some fluoride in it.

 

01:03:02:16 - 01:03:24:13

Loren

And so, you know, a good water filter is great, but that can also take more out to so you know, re mineralized wherever you can. And I think that just starting with a quarter teaspoon of sea salt like you mentioned is totally doable. And so I, I love that recommendation. Thank you.

 

01:03:24:15 - 01:03:49:07

Dr. Carolyn Dean

For Lauren. Let me say stir with a pinch. Yeah. Start with a pinch. If you start with a quarter it I mean you know it'll taste different because you're not used to it. But just put it in a pinch and then increase and and you'll find I mean I find sea salted water now kind of sweet. And if I happen to drink a plain water, it's just so dull, like dishwater.

 

01:03:49:09 - 01:04:14:17

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Like you say, it's all filtered. Everything. Everything is removed. Water now, for the most part, is dead. It's dead because of all the filtration. Bottled water. If you look at the fine print at the back, at the bottom, it'll probably say distilled or reverse osmosis where nothing is left. And we were we're supposed to get our minerals from our food and our water.

 

01:04:14:19 - 01:04:43:06

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And we you mentioned about, you know, food in the beginning. I think we've missed the boat on on food being our medicine anymore. I support, organic, biodynamic farm here in Maui because I'm very committed to good food. But even when I just, have done experiments trying to live off just the farm food and and our chicken eggs, I get all my magnesium deficiency symptoms back.

 

01:04:43:08 - 01:05:06:16

Dr. Carolyn Dean

The farmers aren't able to replace all the minerals that we need in our diet. And that's again why I was kind of forced to go into the dietary supplement business, because, you know, people kept saying to me, well, you're telling me all these things, but, you know, I don't know where to get the right food or the right dietary supplements or whatever.

 

01:05:06:18 - 01:05:40:06

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And actually, that happened around 2008 when we had a big economic crash and people said, I'm too busy now to read all the information you're putting out. Just tell me what to take. So I for that reason, and because I needed the magnesium for my own health, I just got into the whole aspect of, okay, what can I provide people that they're not getting in their food anymore, that they really need and may need extra because of the stress?

 

01:05:40:08 - 01:06:09:04

Dr. Carolyn Dean

There are studies out that show that people who are under stress are very depleted in magnesium. We talked about high estrogen depleted and magnesium taking most drugs, depletion of magnesium. You have surgeries where people will come out with heart palpitations. Why is that? Most of the inhaled anesthetics are fluoride drugs. One of them has like six fluoride molecule oils.

 

01:06:09:05 - 01:06:38:23

Dr. Carolyn Dean

You need six fluoride atoms in each molecule. So you come out of surgery magnesium depleted and her palpitating. You're put on drugs like a knight is one of the big atrial fibrillation drugs. It's loaded with fluoride. So we have a lot to overcome. And then, you know, we'll get people who say, well, if I, if I try to take enough magnesium, I get the laxative effect.

 

01:06:39:00 - 01:07:06:21

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And that's why what we've tried to overcome with our computer, magnesium, it's like, would you put it in your, in your C salted water and you sip that through the day? Maybe you also have another, glass of just c salted water, but you spread it out through the day. If you took all your magnesium of any type all at once, you could get the laxative effect.

 

01:07:06:23 - 01:07:36:01

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So when people ask me, well, what type of magnesium I should take, look for liquids or powders that you put in water and sip through the day. Of course, if you want one that's 100% absorbed at the cellular level, you'll look at my magnesium. But I will tell you, any magnesium, any amount of magnesium will be beneficial to people because it's so required.

 

01:07:36:06 - 01:08:07:18

Dr. Carolyn Dean

80% of the metabolic functions require magnesium. So in your cupboard, if you have a little bottle of magnesium, start taking it. And the sea salt start and drinking water with sea salt and also start moving it. You just gotta keep moving. And you know, if you have an injury. I had a really bad injury recently. I fell on my knee and my elbow just slammed them on a concrete floor.

 

01:08:07:20 - 01:08:31:02

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And I was even at the moment when I was just in terrific pain and and going into shock. I said, well, at least I didn't break anything. Yeah. And that's, that's what we have to look at. If, you know, we have to stay strong and resilient so that we, we don't get sick and break things and have to go to the hospital and all the rest of it.

 

01:08:31:04 - 01:08:55:06

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And then you, you, you know, you work your body so that you get your, your range of function and get your get it back. Never quit, never quit. Do not move into a one storey house because the stairs are giving your knees a problem. Look at why you your knees are a problem. Maybe you you do need a little more calcium.

 

01:08:55:08 - 01:09:30:23

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I don't work a lot with calcium because I think we have enough in most diets, but I do have a pekoe meat or calcium. If people are getting dairy products, green leafy greens and and nuts and seeds and, you know, maybe I'll just jump into diet for a second. Lauren. Because what's happened now with the focus on the ketogenic diet, which I, I definitely went into it for for a couple of years, but I've, I've smooth it out to take more carbohydrate.

 

01:09:31:00 - 01:09:59:05

Dr. Carolyn Dean

But the ketogenic diet kept us away from so much, carbs, fruits and vegetables that we were missing our vitamins and minerals. And again, what I say about a ketogenic diet or even fasting or intermittent fasting, keep taking your your supplements, your pico meat or minerals in your food, those vitamins, because that's what the body's looking for in food.

 

01:09:59:07 - 01:10:04:21

Dr. Carolyn Dean

If we can't get enough food, we have to take it in our dietary supplements.

 

01:10:04:23 - 01:10:37:14

Loren

I think that's a good point to just looking at what you're eating in general and looking at possibly the gaps that are within that. I think the more that you remove food groups and restrict foods, the more opportunity you're going to have for possibly nutrient deficiencies. And you know, the food system, as imperfect as you mentioned, even you can have the most organic, pure, ethically sourced, sustainable, but, regenerative.

 

01:10:37:16 - 01:11:04:03

Loren

But which is great. I think, you know, what you invest in, you vote for as well. And, there's nothing more worthy of investing in and voting for than, you know, food and your health. But again, I think you you put it so well before nothing's perfect. So look at the reality and make changes that are realistic.

 

01:11:04:05 - 01:11:36:22

Loren

You know, you're you're not going to be able to have that most perfect pure food. But that doesn't mean you have to hide away and grow your own food if that's not realistic for you either. So I think there was a lot of really practical a suggestion in this conversation, because I know that, a lot of people think like, oh, I have to move to the wilderness and, you know, live away from community and grow my own food and raise my own cattle.

 

01:11:36:22 - 01:11:57:16

Loren

And that's beautiful. I love that, and that works for a lot of people. But for the most, most of the population, that's just not realistic. And so what can you do in your life to enrich it in a way that's going to promote health and wellness? And you can still achieve that even if you're not doing what I just mentioned.

 

01:11:57:18 - 01:12:32:09

Dr. Carolyn Dean

With diet, the way I started out, just telling people kind of what what to avoid. If you want longevity, you avoid sugar because sugar causes a lot of problems. Glycated proteins and antidote in vitamin C, sugar, glucose, sugar and vitamin C are almost identical structurally, so they fight to get into cells. And if you're overloaded with sugar, it pushes out vitamin C so your cells don't have the proper antioxidants.

 

01:12:32:11 - 01:13:02:09

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So sugar avoid sugar. Avoid calcium taking calcium supplements. Try to get it in your diet. They say aging has to do with calcification. What helps balance out calcium is magnesium. And then there's in the the genes that telomeres act at the end of chromosomes. When they get old they fray like the end of a, a shoelace.

 

01:13:02:11 - 01:13:31:17

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And magnesium stops the fraying of the telomeres. So look at sugar calcium and magnesium of course. And as I mentioned, I think the seed oils are a big factor in aging as well. So there are things you can you can gently avoid and replace with and with more natural things. It's hard with it's hard with sugar. I mean, I know I'm kind of a I love, I love sugar.

 

01:13:31:19 - 01:14:00:03

Dr. Carolyn Dean

I avoided sugar for like ten years when I was trying to work on my yeast overgrowth, and it really wasn't until I worked on and I, briefly mentioned I work with pico meat or silver and a, a gentle antifungal called Saccharomyces for tea and humic for work for cream, probiotics. And that when I, taking it daily, I recommended daily.

 

01:14:00:06 - 01:14:26:01

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And that keeps me from having yeast overgrowth but still able to eat my fruit or my, you know, dessert here and there and not feel deprived. I mean, I think we're we're living at a time where we all feel so deprived. I mean, what we went through with the the crazy shutdown and everything, it put everybody into kind of PTSD and we can't keep depriving ourselves.

 

01:14:26:01 - 01:14:57:24

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So with with diet. Yes. Organic as much as you can and and try to eat a lot of the food groups. I don't really think veganism or vegetarianism is is healthy for everybody. Lauren. Only for percent of the population in North America is vegan or vegetarian, 4%. Yet they make you think that everybody should be handling their diets because they're the healthiest.

 

01:14:57:24 - 01:15:09:06

Dr. Carolyn Dean

And if they were the healthiest and people felt the best on it, more people would be doing them. So it's yeah, there's a lot of marketing with the vegan vegetarianism.

 

01:15:09:08 - 01:15:43:06

Loren

Yes, 100%. And that plays into a lot of the environmental initiatives that are going on, which a lot of it is, mis misconstrued. So that's a whole other conversation. But, I would love to ask you two more questions. One is, I like to ask this of all our guests. You know, you already gave so many practical tips, but if there was one thing that the audience could start doing today to support the innate wisdom of their body, what would that be?

 

01:15:43:08 - 01:16:08:22

Dr. Carolyn Dean

So you said a few things as you said. I'd say start smiling more when I do my morning walk, which I'm blessed to be able to do on the on the boardwalk, on the ocean here. I smile at everybody and for the most part, they smile back. So I'm collecting smiles. I'm elevating myself, and I'm elevating other people.

 

01:16:08:22 - 01:16:19:24

Dr. Carolyn Dean

It's just amazing what that can do. So just just giving yourself out and you'll you'll bring it back to you. So collect smiles.

 

01:16:20:01 - 01:16:35:02

Loren

I love that. That's so important. I think energy exchange is is there something really to that? Thank you so much for being here and sharing so much of your time and wisdom. How? My last question is how can people find you and support you?

 

01:16:35:04 - 01:17:02:08

Dr. Carolyn Dean

Okay, my, my product side is are in a reset.com RNA reset.com, and my educational site with my blogs and and webinars and radio show. I have a Monday live radio show that's just Dr. Carolyn dean.com Karol y. And so come and visit anytime.

 

01:17:02:10 - 01:17:23:23

Loren

Amazing. I'll make sure to include links, to all that stuff in the, show notes. But yeah. Carolyn, thank you so much for being here again. It was such a pleasure talking to you. A super, super big honor. And I can't wait to maybe have another conversation with you in the future.

 

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